Topic: Anime & Manga (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

I always have to laugh when someone says this, because I remember FUNimation was such crap back when they took over the dubbing of Dragonball Z after Ocean Group. They are good now, they've worked hard to gain the trust of anime fans nowadays, but man were they terrible back then, lol.

To be fair, theblackdragon, it was almost impossible to find a good dub back then. English dubs really didn't hit it off in my opinion until about 2002. That's often why there's a divide between subbed/dubbed. Most people who prefer subbed seem eith to prefer it because they want to be 50 episodes ahead (Naruto) or they had previous bad experience with awful dubs. I happen to prefer dubs.

Didn't Funimation save DBZ in America? Doesn't matter to me, I've seen a few episodes in Japanese, and I don't know how anyone can stand it. The voices don't match at all, and I just kind of stare at the screen and wonder if I should roll around laughing, or bang my head on the wall.

Now is that a diss on the DBZ anime in general (I agree because the manga is pretty good but like Naruto, the anime is mindnumbingly slow) or on the Japanese voice acting?

Hahaha, oh God, no. They still try to screw it over as horribly as they can, despite treating other shows (like One Piece, yay) very well. FUNimation completely screwed the Dragonball franchise over, and ruined every chance it had of getting a proper release, since their hackup-job somehow drew in people who enjoyed the space wrestling shitsoup they turned the series into.

Like that, I guess. The English Dragonball dub is pretty much considered a joke all over the world, with it's horrendously unfitting voices, embarassingly awful script, and music that could fit the series any less if it tried. Yet people like you grew up with it on Cartoon Network, somehow liked what you saw, and though the original version, they way it was intended to be viewed, and what made it a massive hit the world over, is somehow "unfitting to the series", despite this BEING "the series", rather than that joke of a re-edit you got. Oh god. It baffles me.

Wow, you found new ways to hate DBZ that I never even thought of. lol But you forget to mention how #$%@ing slow it is as well. In fact, because of its success other animes based on good manga became the either filler-filled or slow-as-hell crap that DBZ introduced. Examples: Rurouni Kenshin (Filler= SEASON 3) and of course NARUTO (100 episodes of filler? Boy howdy what a great show.)

@Adamant: Funimation treating One Piece very well? Can I buy whatever it is your taking to make you believe that? They treat it like it's nothing. They gave Luffy one of the WORST voice actors in existence. They practically raped one of the most emotionally powerful scenes in the entire series, changed nearly all of Zoro's attacks to english, and have utter crap for what they refer to as "dvd bonus features". I could go on about this, but I think i've said enough to prove my point.

@TwilightV-Valid points, but its still better than what 4Kids did...though that goes without saying.

@ Objection_Blaster: They just made it even worse for themselves. You heard about what happened to their streaming episodes. They're advertising is terrible, because I had never even known that they were streaming new eps. until it was too late.

Well, they are streaming FMA: Brotherhood right now right after the new episodes air in Japan. I watched one last week.

Yes, i've known about that since the first episode aired. They have loads of advertising for FMA.

I've been watching more Anime movies lately. First, I watched Akira, then Ghost In The Shell and I then plan to watch Ghost In The Shell 2: Innocence and the Vampire Hunter D series.

I've recently been watching Dragonball Z and GT. I felt I should after watching most episodes of Dragonball when it first aired in English on Cartoon Network or whatever it was. That, and I wanted to see the Over 9000 scene in context. XD

DBZ went good until Buu was introduced. Literally. I thought the Great Saiyaman saga was the best saga.

After I finish with GT, I'll probably watch another anime. I'm not sure which one though. I've considered watching Dragonball again, since it's been so long, but I can't decide.

Somebody in the other anime thread asked if NINJA SCROLL was any good. (Yes I'm answering it here because I started this thread.) It was pretty good, and it does have its moments but in the end its only above average for its time (1995.)

I also recently finished Code Geass R2. Great, unexpected ending.

Ok thanks. Worth a watch though yeah?

Yes, especially to see a certain scene with a big shuriken and a bad guy. Or, depending on your tastes, a certain scene with abad guy and a woman.

This should come as no suprice to people who have seen it. But Gurren Lagann is the pinnacle of anime in my books. I live by the lessons learned through it. Greatest show ever made.
I like Geass, Casshern Sins, Eureka 7, The girl who leapt through time and FLCL as well.

Also, not that i want to voice my negative thoughts. But Evangelion is the worst. I mean it was a totally ok series, but the ending(s) screw it up so bad, i really do not like it one bit. Not a inch of me likes it. I wanted to blow up every Eva Pachniko place when i was in Tokyo, because i dislike it so much. I can not understand why it is so popular.

I have been meaning to see both Gurren Laggan (sp) and The girl who leapt through time. Thanks for reminding me.

WORD VGP!

Everyone hates the ending of NGE. Thats why they did a 2movie remake, which partially healed the ending's wounds. Now, they are making another quadrilogy that remakes the whole series with a new ending, with the first 2 parts done in Japan and the first part coming in December in the US.